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speaker boehner accuses the white house of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been no progress and there will be nor jockeying and leverage the next week. >> i want to point out in the president's weekly address that was issued yesterday, he says there's wiggle room by democrats to come up with a solution. >> that's true. that's what president obama -- he's been saying to republicans here and there, i'm willing to put more on the table but pour the moment, democrats are saying don't touch social security, don't cut medicare. this will come down to whoever blinks first on tax rates. republicans are going to bend on tax rates. maybe not $250,000 threshold, maybe closer to a million. b
speaker boehner accuses the white house of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been...
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there's a little problem between the white house and mr. clinton. >> before i came on your show tonight, i spoke with sources who e very close to bill and hillary clinton, and they told me that bill clinton and barack obama ave had a major falling out. lou: wow, afterll the campaigning? the elegant speech, really? >> because of this estrangement, i'm told, is back to the presidential election when clinton struck a deal with obama. in the deal, clinton said he'd give the nominating speech and go out and campaign for obama, but in return, he wanted a couple things from the president. first, clinton wanted to be a allowed to name the next chairman of the democratic national committee to have effective control of the party apparatus and all the money that goes with that. lou: that's a big gift. >> well, he did a big deal for obama. lou: right. >> secondly, he wanted obama to agree that he would back hillary if she runs for president in 2016, and that was a verbal commitment he believed he had from barack obama. shortly after the election, accor
there's a little problem between the white house and mr. clinton. >> before i came on your show tonight, i spoke with sources who e very close to bill and hillary clinton, and they told me that bill clinton and barack obama ave had a major falling out. lou: wow, afterll the campaigning? the elegant speech, really? >> because of this estrangement, i'm told, is back to the presidential election when clinton struck a deal with obama. in the deal, clinton said he'd give the nominating...
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republicans have sent the white house a counterproposal in response to a new plan president obama offered up privately yesterday. a boehner aide said the g.o.p. is waiting for the president to identify spending cuts, a point the speaker made on the house floor earlier today while white house press secretary jay carney called on republicans to get serious about revenue. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. now, if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. because right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering when is the president going to get serious? >> on that question of whether or not we have put forward specific spending cuts, the answer is is we have. not only that, we signed law a trillion dollars in specific spending cuts. so if you combine what is signed into law with what we proposed versus the total absence of any specificity from the republicans f
republicans have sent the white house a counterproposal in response to a new plan president obama offered up privately yesterday. a boehner aide said the g.o.p. is waiting for the president to identify spending cuts, a point the speaker made on the house floor earlier today while white house press secretary jay carney called on republicans to get serious about revenue. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy...
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president obama visited a family in virginia to layout his case. the white house says it is one of thousands of middle class families facing higher taxes if congress doesn't reach some sort of deal. house speaker insists the republicans will not go along with a higher tax rate for anybody, but an incrowsing number of republicans -- an increasing number of republicans are saying they will have to give in to democrats' demands. you know i read a number of websites that said republicans have waived the white flag on some issues, but not all of them. assuring republicans they don't have to vote for a tax increase. >> and it technically may be correct, but not many are buying this new strategy from the white house since the tax cuts from the middle class and those from the top 2% are both set to expire at the end of the year. the white house says congress really only has to extend one of them. the president continues to put political pressure on lawmakers. he met with a middle class family selected from thousands who responded when the white house asked
president obama visited a family in virginia to layout his case. the white house says it is one of thousands of middle class families facing higher taxes if congress doesn't reach some sort of deal. house speaker insists the republicans will not go along with a higher tax rate for anybody, but an incrowsing number of republicans -- an increasing number of republicans are saying they will have to give in to democrats' demands. you know i read a number of websites that said republicans have...
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to break apart all fifty states have filed online petitions with the white house requesting to peacefully secede from this so-called perfecting union a movement that's garnered more than thirty thousand signatures in north carolina. were many like michael toggled. see independence as a symbol may twentieth a consistent one is the day that north carolina sated from the union and america's stars and stripes ripping at the seams there's no doubt in my mind that it is inevitable i mean something like this with the the debt this country has growing disunion among in the among the people they can't last forever and that's through the lesson of history big empires always collapse on their own weight secession supporters like bernard first some say washington's weight of growing debt and lists wars government intrusion and a broken immigration system has become a bipartisan destructive force is beyond reform you can't reform that federal government whether it's the republicans in charge or obama basically is the republicans are just as bad as far as we're concerned they're corrupt and are out of
to break apart all fifty states have filed online petitions with the white house requesting to peacefully secede from this so-called perfecting union a movement that's garnered more than thirty thousand signatures in north carolina. were many like michael toggled. see independence as a symbol may twentieth a consistent one is the day that north carolina sated from the union and america's stars and stripes ripping at the seams there's no doubt in my mind that it is inevitable i mean something...
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has made a counteroffer to the white house on the fiscal cliff and the endless conversation continues today with president obama giving his first post-election one on one interview here's a snippet i think the issue right away and when will the two of you sit down and around the you know i don't think that the issue right now as you do is sitting in a room. there was plenty of that it throughout the interview but do these twenty four seven deficit debates do you want to undermine perceptions of america and the dollars position in the international monetary system then they do to address the nation's growing debt will discuss uncle sam's exorbitant privilege despite the budget woes and assess the competitive currency landscape plus the dollar fell against other currencies to a six week low this morning according to reuters which cited concerns over a fiscal cliff deal but what does the so-called dollar index really gauge when it comes to the greenback true value will break it down and word of the day and paying people to track the comings and goings of private corporate jets in the big
has made a counteroffer to the white house on the fiscal cliff and the endless conversation continues today with president obama giving his first post-election one on one interview here's a snippet i think the issue right away and when will the two of you sit down and around the you know i don't think that the issue right now as you do is sitting in a room. there was plenty of that it throughout the interview but do these twenty four seven deficit debates do you want to undermine perceptions of...
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at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boehner yesterday, their first direct talk in almost a week. but today white house spokesman jay carney wouldn't share details of the call. >> we believe it's in the interest of achieving an agreement not to do that. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said yesterday the white house was absolutely willing to go over the cliff if republicans held firm in their opposition to raising rates on the wealthy. but it was the administration's other demand-- to give the president authority over the nation's debt ceiling that r
at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up....
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the white house feels very burned by the 2011 debt ceiling negotiations. they feel like they have the leverage. and they're leaving it up to boehner to capitulate. >> do you think that president obama feels that he has unilateral control of the purse? >> no, but they think that they have enough leverage that they can force republicans to put the debt ceiling into any package that they eventually come up with. and if they don't, he feels like there is some other way that he can force them to deal with this issue. >> if this is a power of the purse issue and it falls on congress, not on the president, the president would be overstepping his power. because he -- does he want to have unilateral control defacto of the purse? >> no, i don't think i wants unilateral control. what he wants to do is force the republicans in the house to do what he wants. >> which means he wants control. >> well, i mean it is a political issue, okay? the republicans have their own abilities to lean back against the democrats on all of this and against obama and i suspect they will t
the white house feels very burned by the 2011 debt ceiling negotiations. they feel like they have the leverage. and they're leaving it up to boehner to capitulate. >> do you think that president obama feels that he has unilateral control of the purse? >> no, but they think that they have enough leverage that they can force republicans to put the debt ceiling into any package that they eventually come up with. and if they don't, he feels like there is some other way that he can force...
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by some guys i'm having martin so president obama had a meeting today with various governors to discuss ways to keep the economy growing but perhaps we should have just consulted with the white house petitions page because so far over fifteen hundred have signed what they see as this country's best economic stimulus plan construction of a death star yes the fictional space station and super weapon from star wars capable planetary destruction with its super laser is exactly what the american empire needs so come on and let's break the set. despite so many diet fad that sweeps across this country every year obesity plagues thirty percent of americans and you can blame it on the fast food industry or lack of exercise but have you ever considered that diet foods themselves might be part of the problem so let me explain the most prevalent artificial sugar on the market is aspartame which is also recognizes nutrasweet or aspartame is in over six thousand products including almost all diet sodas chewing gum frozen desserts yogurt and even vitamins and cough drops but the f.d.a. approved it so
by some guys i'm having martin so president obama had a meeting today with various governors to discuss ways to keep the economy growing but perhaps we should have just consulted with the white house petitions page because so far over fifteen hundred have signed what they see as this country's best economic stimulus plan construction of a death star yes the fictional space station and super weapon from star wars capable planetary destruction with its super laser is exactly what the american...
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>> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. it's not me being stubborn or patterson. it's just a matter of math. >> there have been no deals of this magnitude made in modern times in congress and forced on a reluctant president. >> the president continues to change the goal posts along this process. >> we're looking for solutions and it doesn't seem, at least from the president's proposal, that he is at all serious about finding the solutions to help our country. >> he thinks somebody's made him king. >> if the president really wants to reach an agreement, he needs to talk to the members of his own party right here in washington trying to broker an agreement, not out there firing up crowds and giving speeches. >> its time for the president and the democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. >> we loo
>> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. it's not me being stubborn or patterson. it's just a matter of math. >> there have been no deals of this magnitude made in modern times in congress and forced on a reluctant president. >> the president continues to change the goal posts...
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president barack obama and his family have lit the national christmas tree outside the white house. >> it is an annual tradition dating back to 1923. this year's giant blue spruce is new and will remain planted outside the white house throughout the year. the tree is lit by 450 strands of alley delights and 120 star ornaments. >> that looks like a fun party. >> beautiful christmas in the white house for sure. that is all we have run out. thanks for watching. >> do not forget, you can find more on our website at dw.de. see you soon. ????ovív"d
president barack obama and his family have lit the national christmas tree outside the white house. >> it is an annual tradition dating back to 1923. this year's giant blue spruce is new and will remain planted outside the white house throughout the year. the tree is lit by 450 strands of alley delights and 120 star ornaments. >> that looks like a fun party. >> beautiful christmas in the white house for sure. that is all we have run out. thanks for watching. >> do not...
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a senior white house aide confirms the obama administration is offering $1.4 trillion in revenue. you remember the previous offer by the white house was 1.6 trillion in revenue. so a little decline there but, no talk of spending right? we'll bring you more details as we have them. >>> the tragic death of dallas cowboys player is sparking debate ho much control employers can imposed over their workers. er the weekend krou boys linebacker jerry brown was killed in a drunk driving accident with fellow teammate josh brent at the wheel. the cowboys are considering installing a device called safe-key in every player's car. it prevents cars from driving if the driver doesn't pass a visual hand-eye coordination test. the cowboys won't be the first organization to have rules. here at "money" we told you about it. ri health which fired 150 workers for not getting flu shots. the question is, are these kinds of rules fair to employees and are they even legal? here to figure this out is attorney nicole davord. thanks for coming on. >> sure. thanks for having me. melissa: let's start with the i
a senior white house aide confirms the obama administration is offering $1.4 trillion in revenue. you remember the previous offer by the white house was 1.6 trillion in revenue. so a little decline there but, no talk of spending right? we'll bring you more details as we have them. >>> the tragic death of dallas cowboys player is sparking debate ho much control employers can imposed over their workers. er the weekend krou boys linebacker jerry brown was killed in a drunk driving...
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times reports the white house will begin an all-out drive for an immigration bill that will include a path to citizenship for the 11.1 million illegal immigrants currently in the country. the bill would also seek stronger border security measures, penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants and would make it easier to bring in skilled foreign workers under special visas. in the interests of basic self-preservation, many republicans are also clambering for reform following their drubbing in the recent election when mitt's self-deportation policy lost the latino vote by a whopping 44 points. quote "there is a growing sense that this is an opportunity that should be taken, said ed jill esspi, a former republican national can i chairman. "there's no instinct like a survival instinct." for those thinking immigration reform will be a bipartisan community effort, think again. while many top republicans see a drastic need for change, many rank-and-file lawmakers remain skeptical. skeptical, indeed. politico writes regardless of exit polls, demographic trends and lectures from party le
times reports the white house will begin an all-out drive for an immigration bill that will include a path to citizenship for the 11.1 million illegal immigrants currently in the country. the bill would also seek stronger border security measures, penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants and would make it easier to bring in skilled foreign workers under special visas. in the interests of basic self-preservation, many republicans are also clambering for reform following their drubbing...
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. >> we need a response from the white house. >> i'm hea here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> it's true that president obama won reelection and i congratulate him on his victory, but on january 20th, he'll face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. >> our people in an overwhelming way supported the reelection of this president, and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that. >> you want the answer to solving the fiscal cliff? we put an offer on the table. the president now has to engage. >> you might even say he'll inherit these problems. >> the president is going away for christmas. he's going to hawaii for 20 something days. where am i going to be? where are my neighbors going to be? we're not going to have a place called home. where is the help? >> what's holding us back right now is a lot of stuff that's going on in this town. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c. and came back home with some bacon. >> that's right. >> that's what you do. >> the fact is this president basically i don't th
. >> we need a response from the white house. >> i'm hea here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> it's true that president obama won reelection and i congratulate him on his victory, but on january 20th, he'll face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. >> our people in an overwhelming way supported the reelection of this president, and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that. >> you want the answer...
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the most pessimistic white respondents. republicans most concerned about their own personal situation. and then on the issue of compromise, this is a somewhat interesting slide i think. we asked should president obama compromise or remained firm in his program? 59% of those who said they voted for president obama want to see compromise. we asked of those identified themselves as voting for governor romney, should the
the most pessimistic white respondents. republicans most concerned about their own personal situation. and then on the issue of compromise, this is a somewhat interesting slide i think. we asked should president obama compromise or remained firm in his program? 59% of those who said they voted for president obama want to see compromise. we asked of those identified themselves as voting for governor romney, should the
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>>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on what we are told are a number of issues. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from washington, dc. we know that business collects information from us when we go to our website our mobile apps. usually it is legal. there is a new law that requires companies to notify you if it is taking information from you. to law is about to be put to the test. i got word in the last 30 seconds and a ruling from the supreme court, a decision from the supreme court, actually, on whether it will hear a same-sex marriage case and the constitutionality of that. the answer is "yes" the court has notified us. all energy development comes with some risk, but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlif
>>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on what we are told are a number of issues. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from washington, dc. we know that business collects information from us when we go to our website our mobile apps. usually it is legal. there is a new law that requires companies to notify you if it is taking information from you. to law is about to be put to the test. i got word in the last 30 seconds and a ruling from...
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of the white house triball nation's conference. listen. >> the president loves basketball. he has an indian name. he knows what it's like to be poor, and he has not forgotten where he came from, and his theme song is "hail to the chief." [laughter] i think he definitely qualifies as the first american indian president. lou: and so he is declared. you may remember the president has been called the first gay, female, jewish, and asian president; however, without question, the title of america's first black president belongs to bight. -- bill clinton. up nt, the obama ultimatum. tax the rich, or he'll take the country over the cliff. vote on the facebook page, do you agree president obama's ultimatum on higher taxes are responsible for driving us over the cliff if that were to occur? we're talking with monicand angela, and lori. that's right, the a-tea is next, and you don't want to miss them. before copd... i took my son fisng every year. we had a great spotot, not easy to find,ut worth it. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i
of the white house triball nation's conference. listen. >> the president loves basketball. he has an indian name. he knows what it's like to be poor, and he has not forgotten where he came from, and his theme song is "hail to the chief." [laughter] i think he definitely qualifies as the first american indian president. lou: and so he is declared. you may remember the president has been called the first gay, female, jewish, and asian president; however, without question, the...
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with obama in the white house for another four years, republicans are looking for something much smaller. even a down payment on medicare. that they can still call victory. is that enough on entitlements, ed o'keefe? >> it might be in the short-term. i agree with a.b. and i agree with erskine bowles that eventually there's going to be longer-term discussions about this if they want to get serious about budget cuts. >>> this is is a president who has an appetite for spending cuts. he has talked about it throughout his presidency. he hasn't had a chance just yet. this may be his opportunity to do so and say look, i got taxes, but i also gave you spending cuts and we got serious about fixing this problem. if can he do that, i think he himself could declare victory. the question is whether more liberal members of the house and even of the senate, would go along with some kind of plan and that's why i think republicans may be right. minimal changes for now. probably a good thing. whether or not it happens long-term remains to be seen. >> a.b. stoddard of the hill, ed o'keefe from the "washing
with obama in the white house for another four years, republicans are looking for something much smaller. even a down payment on medicare. that they can still call victory. is that enough on entitlements, ed o'keefe? >> it might be in the short-term. i agree with a.b. and i agree with erskine bowles that eventually there's going to be longer-term discussions about this if they want to get serious about budget cuts. >>> this is is a president who has an appetite for spending cuts....
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the white house announcing any state that refuses to fully expand medicaid to required levels will not receive full funding under obamacare. this as we learn another state, tennessee, has joined more than a dozen others in opting not to create a state-backed insurance exchange. brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to president george w. bush. brad, is this because the rollout with obamacare is not exactly going as planned? >> you bet. when only 13 states opt in to medicaid expansion. nine states say they won't. there are a bunch of states sitting on the sidelines freting how they will be able to absorb this kind of cost. it is economic duress on part of the administration. they feel only way they can expand their coverage is threatening the states with funds. fact the matter, rick, 70 million people on medicaid. largest expansion of additional 17 million under obamacare. the states can't afford it. 25% of their current budgets are going out to medicaid. and that is going to blow their budgets up. the federal government says but we'll cover 100% of the costs but only for a few years.
the white house announcing any state that refuses to fully expand medicaid to required levels will not receive full funding under obamacare. this as we learn another state, tennessee, has joined more than a dozen others in opting not to create a state-backed insurance exchange. brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to president george w. bush. brad, is this because the rollout with obamacare is not exactly going as planned? >> you bet. when only 13 states opt in to medicaid expansion....
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obama and stop making premature concessions for the tv cameras that only make the white house less likely to meet them halfway. is that the net result, dana? >> well, it is a crisis. it's a manmade crisis. it's not like some meteor is headed towards the earth. they set it up this way so there will be these massive tax increases and massive spending cuts, so they do need to -- they have made it to they need to act. the question is do you need an even larger crisis? do you need the economy to be in free fall to get these guys to take some action? unfortunately given the past record, that can't be ruled out. >> yeah. when it comes to cuts, especially on medicare, that whole conversation has to be had. here's what dick durbin said on "meet the press." >> i do believe there should be means testing. those of us with higher income and retirement should pay more. that could be part of the solution. but when you talk about raising the medicare eligibility age there's one key question. what happens to that early retiree. ? what about that gap in coverage between their workplace and medicare? >> jac
obama and stop making premature concessions for the tv cameras that only make the white house less likely to meet them halfway. is that the net result, dana? >> well, it is a crisis. it's a manmade crisis. it's not like some meteor is headed towards the earth. they set it up this way so there will be these massive tax increases and massive spending cuts, so they do need to -- they have made it to they need to act. the question is do you need an even larger crisis? do you need the economy...
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well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on taxes. later this afternoon, he'll head to michigan to talk to auto workers outside a plant in detroit. >>> if you listen to the sunday shows, seems like some republicans are willing to give in on taxes to get where they want to go. entitlements. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house. that's it. the presidency and the senate is in the democrats' hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i actually think it has merit. where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about. the rate increase on the top 2%. and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> let me bring in "washington post" columnist danny milbank and "usa tod
well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on taxes. later this afternoon, he'll head to michigan to talk to auto workers outside a plant in detroit. >>> if you listen to the sunday shows, seems like some republicans are willing to give in on taxes to get where they want...